Obviously, George also has problems from time to time with leveling off exactly at a given altitude or predicting a descent point precisely. But opting out of some of these cookies may have an effect on your browsing experience. PMDG enable their customers to equip their aircraft as they please the real aircraft is available in different configurations, and the same is possible in the simulator. Max landing altitude is 8400. Posts that are unsigned will be quietly removed without comment by the moderators, so to make your life easy- we recommend enabling your forum signature so that you never need to remember. But these are minor points, and moreover they depend on subjective perception. If it werent for the CTDs! Even more so if it takes place at your PC at home with a system that may have cost 1.700,- in a generous case and can only deliver a corresponding performance. I, too, was affected by this on several online test flights. The first steps are PPAA -> Power Performance Analysis Action to achieve safe single-engine flight; next, we want to restore system redundancy to the degree possible while of course not forgetting to navigate and under coordination with ATC to manoeuvre to a position from which, after re-programming the FMC, a single engine approach can be made to the departure airport, if this is possible from a meteorological and operational point of view. No requests for links to similar sites like SimPlaza, 8. have a look here: http://virtualfsx.wordpress.com/. The auto/manual mode could cause this. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. By the way: This is the second part of our three-part 737 NG review special. Edit: page 31 of the introduction PDF I turned off the autopilot, but I cant silence the alarm. Tom Allensworth, But I have every trust in the expertise of PMDGs team and in the communitys swarm intelligence. Customized sound package that leverages advanced sound recording and playback technology for incredible realism. Along with the advice above, may I recommend Emi's YouTube channel, which is a wealth of great information on everything 737. After commenting, please wait until your comment is approved. Please be courteous, English is not my primary language. WebHow to align irs and fix cabin altitude warning (Zibo b738) - YouTube 0:00 / 3:06 How to align irs and fix cabin altitude warning (Zibo b738) FSimSpotter 5 subscribers 2.7K It has already been decided that, in addition the Boeing 737-800 and -900 reviewed here, there will be an update at a later date containing the -600 and -700, the two shorter variants. But this is something I generally dont do after all, I want to assess the sound of the model I bought, not the model I fiddled around with. If this is your first visit, be sure to But it is only natural that the cooperation with Boeing which has been stressed time and again and the use of original plans and blueprints should also have its effects here, and not only on systems depth. Leaving recirculation fans OFF would not prevent pressurisation. All they do is allow the packs to run at a lower airflow rate to improve fuel econ Stefan: Well, in direct comparison with other 737 NG implementations I have to say that overall, the VC in those implementations is noticeably lower, making the view through the forward window less high and wider. They are normally turned off for take-off (because they use bleed air which in turn reduces engine power) but have to be turned on after take-off, otherwise the cabin cannot be pressurized. In the beginning, the acoustic backdrop seemed almost too loud to me, but if I hark back to the pre-9/11 era I recall that various airliner cockpit visits at the time really left a similar impression on me. Just two questions: what do T/C and T/D mean in the plan map? He will tell us how realistic PMDG has managed to make the systems simulation of the 737 NG. A home PC in a standard configuration is enough. Updated 737 options packages reflecting operational improvements and changes to the global 737 fleet. You will become aware of many details you would not previously have paid attention to. I probably wont even install the PMDG on my good old dual-core Vista 32-bit PC from Aldi (though other PMDG aircraft and even the FlightSimLabs Concorde run quite acceptably on it). I say this because if the 2D FMC is on a secondary screen, you cannot use keyboard entry you can neither use the tab key nor activate the input line in the scratch pad. Before we get down to the meat of the review, we briefly want to characterize the PMDG Boeing 737 NGX in the wider context of the current add-on market. You will find the signature editor on the ACCOUNT tab, about half way down the page. What is also great is that PMDG attaches equal importance to the visual aspect of the flight experience. <> Sign up for notifications from Insider! The FAA didn't say there had been any in-flight failures of the switches. The 2D panel concept has thus not been implemented completely, which I dont quite understand. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The PMDG 737-900 for Microsoft Flight Simulator, my comment does not break any of the above rules, Always protect yourself when downloading Torrents, Flightbeam Studios NZAA Auckland International Airport v1.2.0, iniBuilds NZQN Queenstown Airport v1.0.1, iniBuilds KOKC Will Rogers World / Oklahoma City Airport v1.0.2, WorldSky Studios WIMM Kualanamu International Airport v1.0.0, IndiaFoxtEcho AmericaClass LHA Ships v1.1.0, Airwil Sceneries RPME Bancasi / Butuan Airport v2.0.0, Airwil Sceneries RPMG Dipolog Airport v1.3.0, BEAUTIFUL MODEL of the WORLD KMRY Monterey Regional Airport v1.2.0, BEAUTIFUL MODEL of the WORLD LEPP Pamplona Airport v1.0.1 (New Build), 1. There are a few isolated flaws, but in view of the huge complexity of the add-on they should not be overstressed. You took the time to be here, we want to get to know you. Emi is a IRL 737 pilot and most everything you need to know is well described in the various vids on his channel. Review : SXAirportDesign El Paso International Airport P3D5, Review : RFscenerybuilding Brussels South Charleroi International Airport P3D5, Review : Pro Flight Trainer PUMA X and Flight Sim Coach experience with MSFS, MLD Scenery LRIA Iasi Announced for MSFS, Configuration of the aircraft from the cockpit without a restart, Crash to desktop (CTD) on some systems (see PMDG support forum). Work through that section of the checklist again on your next flight. They use entirely different methods of calculation and therefore cannot yield the same results. In addition to the performance problems on older systems, which were to be expected, there were also reports of inexplicable crashes CTDs and freezes. If I consider how an A320 with FBW behaves which, after all, supports you extremely well during this transition the NGX seems to me to be a bit too harmless in this respect. Thats correct. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. But please give PMDG a bit of time its not even two weeks since the release yet. Holger: Frank, who recently wrote the review for the DA-20 Katana, pointed out the cockpit crew animations to me. I really took the system to its extremes here. Let me put it like this: The NGX autopilot makes about the same errors as a real autopilot and to a degree that is definitely justifiable and does not to be corrected. Interchangeable equipment options for cockpit instrumentation Once to disengage and once to silence the warning its disengaged. I use only a sub-woofer and two tweeters all in all, a pretty standard PC sound system. The assessment of the flight envelope as a whole, however, delivers a very good result in my opinion. There is always something that hums, buzzes or beeps. But it is also the add-on that has had to contend with the highest level of expectations. Do you have a link to the manual? Access your favorite topics in a personalized feed while you're on the go. Be sure to click the "Show Signatures" box. Did we ever figure out what caused the dual bleed trip? Includes the 737-900 in passenger configuration with both blended winglets and split scimitar winglet configurations. To what degree the data conversion performed by Navigraph is responsible for this cannot be determined. In the beginning, the acoustic backdrop seemed almost too loud to me, but if I hark back to the pre-9/11 era I recall that various airliner cockpit visits at the time really left a similar impression on me. endobj Also make sure ALTN is set to AUTO not MAN. Why do I have that red warning light and how can I solve it? I could really feel the large mass pushing: The aircraft was quite unwilling to lose airspeed and altitude. I dont know. is there a tutorial on how to set this correctly and not get the annoying alarm? Holger: So the complexity of this add-on can definitely be learned and experienced without needing a Level D simulator to do it. It is very nicely done and deserves a very good rating. It's easy! My solution to this has been the VRInsight MCP combo on one hand and a touch screen on the other. Hit trip reset and switch iso valve to auto. What do you think Stefan? To read their verdict, click read more. Full set of ground equipment for each aircraft type, including passenger servicing vehicles. I learned that many airline pilots would sometimes welcome it if real autopilots flew as precisely as they do in the simulation. Would be nice if the plane could tell you on a PFD. To me, personally, the interaction concept of a panel is one of the topmost quality aspects of an aircraft add on. Should steel brakes or carbon brakes be simulated? This is accomplished without overly large rudder deflections and is easy to stabilize my feeling, as I have already mentioned, is that it is a little too easy! But those who know me know that I generally dont do this, as no further improvement is possible beyond a superlative. Ive had to wait a long time for this convenience the last payware product that offered this luxury was the Super 80 Pro by Coolsky/Flight1. There is an amusing aspect to the image update of the NGX in the external view. For FSX, this is a real quantum leap and the system is perfect for the PMDG 737 NGX. In addition to the performance problems on older systems, which were to be expected, there were also reports of inexplicable crashes CTDs and freezes. Once you have internalized the concept, you can conveniently operate the NGX to its full extent without any major investments in home cockpit hardware. Ok thanks, now I know where to look. Here at the Benzinger home, it is customary that I build a Revell model kit for every new FS add-on I buy and in this case, the PMDG model clearly beats it! This is because, strangely enough, the throttle quadrant does not have its own 2D panel. Now my wife's greatest friend's I from the. The CTDs occur sporadically, and the degree to which they occur depends on the PC configuration and any third-party add-ons that are installed. To me, the PMDG is a perfect add-on but in view of the great add-ons that have appeared in the last three months alone, you have to be really careful not to overuse the superlative. Simply ignoring the alarm will lead to an almost certain crash, as shown by flight Helios 522, which never pressurised and crashed due to fuel exhaustion. OP is talking about a warning horn that sounds continuously. I fly using TrackIR, and I dont need the 2D panel at all. Look for "Edit Post Signature." You are the connoisseur among us, with an eye for correct design. I'm not up to speed on the pneumatic system as I'm not a 737 pilot IRL, but I suspect this is because you have the isolation valve set to open instead of auto. After this review, we will write a comparison between PMDG and iFly. But I think if you press trip reset on the air con panel it should extinguish Ryzen 9 5900X, RX 6900XT, 32GB DDR4 RAM @3600MHz, 4k. Doesnt seem that hard. i just diverted my flight after 30mins so i could shut the aircraft down. And at this point, I again need to make an important digression: As usual, I have read the whole spectrum of assessments in the PMDG forums from too sensitive to too sluggish. Includes the the 737-900ER in passenger configuration with both blended winglets and split scimitar winglet configurations. In 2003, by the way, he reviewed PMDGs Boeing 737 NG for FS2002 and FS2004, and he later went on to review the various Boeing 737 NG from Ariane, too. Feb. 2018 um 9:58 Ursprnglich geschrieben von Holding entries are another sticking point for a precise FMC simulation. All new hi-fidelity models with superb detail Beautifully crafted exterior and interior models built over contemporary detailed plans and Sound environment built using recordings from a purpose-instrumented airplane recording effort. Im guessing its the alarm that you arent in landing configuration, but I have set the flaps for landing, gear is down, speedbrake is armed, what else is required for the alarm to stop? If we want to count all of the lateral and vertical flight guidance by the FMC with LNAV and VNAV as part of automatic flight, we have to begin noting the first imperfections. We do this in order to keep conversations personal and familiar. There is no external tool for this, everything can be configured directly from the Flight Simulator session. All references in the article lead to the original articles in German. PMDG has currently released the third hotfix for this issue, but some users continue to experience problems. Incandescent and LED lighting packages, as well as fully dimming flight deck lights and annunciators. The FAA requires every airplane with a pressurized cabin to include a system that warns the flight crew of cabin depressurization. This page was generated at 03:28. You took the time to be here, we want to get to know you. Fully customized flight control systems with normal, standby and reversionary capability. To date, PMDG has not necessarily been known for eye candy; an accurate rating for the external models of previous years might be solid work. Oski, how does the NGX run for you? As a longtime model maker I can answer this with a clear and I admit slightly surprised yes. Their failure could mean that cabin oxygen levels fall dangerously low, the FAA said. In the PMDG, the whole panel is somehow less wide, everything in the VC seems more confined. The one question that remains is about the reviewers choice. By the way, the setup option in the CDU allows the acoustic backdrop to be adjusted to personal taste again, this is a real innovation and one of the strengths of the product. But it is also the add-on that has had to contend with the highest level of expectations. Stefan, can this complexity actually be operated well? After all not all use VC or single monitor. But an expert in the sense of the question you certainly dont have to be that. It is reassuring, though, that the developers are hard at work on a solution, and we are sure that PMDG will soon be able to offer such a solution. To me, at least, part of the fun of simming consists of flying different aircraft types. I was a little surprised that the 737 NGX now has one after all. Hey I managed to taxi to the runway with an open L2 door in the 777 just noticed it Stay up to date with what you want to know. We do so because we feel that forums in which users must engage one another personally are generally warmer, more collegial and friendly. Did you set your cruise altitude on the overhead? By default its at 10,000 and if your cruise level is going to be 35,000 feet for example you need The present 737 interpretation from PMDG, to me, is the climax of this development (for the present?). Here, at least, there are no wrong entries, but the procedures themselves are flown very imprecisely. The aircraft they have delivered this time round, however, is really quite beautiful and modelled in great detail; it even features a cabin that is visible from the external view, which is not really typical for PMDG. My old computer, a first-generation quad core with 2.93 GHz (QX6800) should probably be able to handle the PMDG, too, but a mixture of complex sceneriesandthe 737 NGX would definitely be pushing it! Well, in direct comparison with other 737 NG implementations I have to say that overall, the VC in those implementations is noticeably lower, making the view through the forward window less high and wider. And PMDG has done a good job at leaving a good first impression. By Though iFly has won the race with PMDG to be the first to release, many enthusiasts see PMDGs product as being far out in front after all, PMDGs developers have already delivered impressive proof of their skill in the shape of other complex airliner simulations. There is an Alt horn shut-off button its on one of the pressurization panels, if you press that one you will get rid of the alarm sound for the rest of the flight. Holger: Can you give an example of a particularly well-implemented complex workflow that is possible with the PMDG aircraft if you exploit it to its full potential? 2 0 obj Also your yaw damper is off, turn that on on the ground. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Boeing had said earlier that the reported issues with the switches didn't pose a safety concern. I suppose a cockpit is anything but a quiet place. Here's an adaptation of a two pilot job for the sim: 1. The PMDG flies great whether by hand or by autopilot. And after all, the community is made up not only of pilots with virtual type ratings and hardcore simmers who plan and execute their flights with great dedication and knowledge, but also of many with an aesthetic inclination who frown at sludgy textures or mushy pixels and complain if exterior features such as pitot tubes or antennas are missing. All rights reserved. An impressive experience! Then set the landing atltude at the destination and the cruise altitude. PMDGs product philosophy aims not only to deliver a realistic airliner implementation but also to offer corresponding accessories. I just muted the game tho and carried on unpressurized . I think my Nvidea GeForce 9800 GT would give it a run for its money. Oski: Well, its always a bit difficult to judge the sound on a PC. Upload New File; Discussion. Thanks. Free customer support both at our customer forum and directly from our support team if necessary. So we should really assume that everything runs normally. No doubt there will always be some room for discussion whether the trim sound, say, is too quiet or whether the spoiler extension on landing sounds quite so or a bit different. PMDG gives their customers the good feeling of having bought a package that is very complete in terms of a serious Boeing 737 NG simulation. In this respect, the NGX is a new benchmark by which many future developers as well as future alternatives to FSX as a platform will be measured. Another example: The elevators have trim tabs with their own animations at extreme deflections, they move in opposite directions. The hydraulic cylinders of the slaps and flaps are also modelled in 3D. Holger: Are there systems that are particularly innovative or that deserve particular attention? Did you set your cruise altitude on the overhead? check out the. This is very inconvenient and detracts from the overall impression. I have good frame rates (20+ for instance at Mega-Airport Zrich) when in the VC and even better frame rates (30+) with the 2D panels. However, a few isolated but relevant problems will definitely still have to be fixed. PMDG Operations Center 2.0 for easy livery installation and ease of receiving free product updates from PMDG. "A latent failure of both pressure switches could result in the loss of cabin altitude warning, which could delay flight crew recognition of a lack of cabin pressurization, and result in incapacitation of the flight crew due to hypoxia (a lack of oxygen in the body), and consequent loss of control of the airplane," the agency said. As the model is obviously very detailed and consists of very many polygons, less powerful systems display a skeletal airplane for a shorter or longer period of time as the image updates. Reddit's Official home for Microsoft Flight Simulator. Have fun! To me, the acoustic environment in the cockpit is tightly woven and convincing. All new models, entirely new textures, a completely new sound environment and tens of thousands of changes, adaptations, improvements and fixes, the PMDG 737-900 is the ultimate realization of flight simulation, forty years in the making. The image galleries on airliners.net dont really help either, because many of the images have been post-processed and stretched. At least in normal conditions.The controllers are programmed and designed to never exceed maximum differential pressure between cabin and external air, this thing takes its part in the pressurization profile that controllers make when they know the desired crz altitude and landing altitude.Wrong data are only uncomfortable for passengers and crew.Different is for the manual mode where the pilot manually moves the valve.In this case there is only the overpressure protection wich will open the safety valves when maximum differential pressure is reached.There is no protection in manual if the airplane is de-pressurizing (except for the warning). It added: "Addressing these failures requires immediate action.". Applying for medicals to start PPL soon. You didn't set the bleeds and/or packs correctly after your engine start. Work through that section of the checklist again on your next flight. Hav After all, this is an add-on that has been awaited for a very long time, with the focus of interest lying on the desire for a realistic implementation of the real aircraft. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. PMDG Simulations Official youTube content to aide new PMDG 737 pilots in getting the most from their purchase. Full featured failures simulation to cover nearly all QRH scenarios as well as real-world mean time to failure simulations model. Honestly speaking I would feel very uncomfortable about this in real life, particularly if you consider that one of the main purposes of a go-around is to regain altitude quickly. Oskar Wagner was a Captain with a large Swiss airline for many years, flying a large variety of types, and he also worked as a Fokker company test pilot flying new aircraft in preparation for delivery. What this means in practice is evident to the customer the first time they load the 737. And this is why PMDG recommend a 64-bit system in their requirements. Highly integrated exterior, interior cabin and flight deck sound environments. If there is sufficient customer demand, the ER variants of the -700 and -900 may follow, but a final decision on this has not been taken. Oski: I dont even have to go that far. In the case of the PMDG this applies to the convincing flight dynamics. Surprising, but its a fact. Does the PMDG fly precisely? This really applies to all of the working space of the captain. Or if I adjust the bank limiter instead of the heading bug? In such conditions, a flow experience will never come about. Oski: To a certain degree: yes! Airlines have been told to inspect 2 pressure switches on Boeing 737s over concerns they could fail. Any modern flight guidance system can handle it though only of course if the initial situation is correct. Non related things I saw : Your off schedule descent is telling you, you never reached that altitude. But they do occur: In the PMDG forums, more than a few customers have been puzzled by sudden crashes not crashes from the cruise flight levels but ones of a technical nature. Was the design team able to live up to the high standard in the area of graphics? Theyre wonderful, dont you think? But this is in fact where one of the great strengths of the NGX may lie. Oski: Particularly innovative is not something you can really call the NG and here I mean the real aircraft even if NG stands for New Generation.
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